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by SwellJoe 5513 days ago
"Mutiny" has no meaning when there is no authority to which one can object. I don't know what the right word would be here, but it's definitely not "mutiny".

I also strongly suspect no one of any significance in this story is particularly worried about this exposure. Anyone smart who is participating in potentially illegal activities would be particularly careful about using proxies for sensitive work; and planning is definitely sensitive. I would also assume, were I a participant in Anonymous activities, that any site claiming to be representative of Anonymous has at least a 50% chance of being operated by the FBI or a rogue security company running black hat operations along the lines of HB Gary Federal. It'd be absolutely foolish to connect to such a site directly, and the members of Anonymous who are doing the real heavy lifting are probably not fools.

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Anyone smart who is participating in potentially illegal activities would be particularly careful about using proxies for sensitive work; and planning is definitely sensitive

I'm not sure why you assume they're smart. Most of 'em are probably about fifteen years old.

I'll quote another bit of what I said: the members of Anonymous who are doing the real heavy lifting are probably not fools.

Anonymous is anybody that wants to be Anonymous, including people who have never been Anonymous in the past and will never be Anonymous in the future...but, quite a bit of what Anonymous has done required specialized knowledge and experience and intelligence. Those are the people the FBI would like to identify, and they're also the people least likely to be identified by a data leak like this. So, a leak of Anonymous IP addresses is really probably a leak of kids who haven't actually done much damage and a handful of Tor exit node addresses representing the people within Anonymous who know how to wreak havoc.

That's part of the strength of Anonymous. If there is a crackdown of any sort, it will snare a bunch of innocent (or close enough to innocent) kids, and miss all of the real targets completely. Law enforcement could only pin the blame on dumb 15 year olds so many times before it begins to seem ridiculous (especially since if they claimed to "take down" Anonymous by doing so, there'd be a slew of attacks by Anonymous just to prove no such thing had taken place and the people they'd arrested were innocent bystanders).

SwellJoe didn't make any collective assumptions about their intelligence. Also the implication that 15 year olds aren't that smart doesn't seem that smart.