[ethbr0]

From everything I've touched Sun was always very... Unix in regards to UX.

As in "Well, just learn to deal with it. And be grateful you have a graphical interface at all."

Making things better, or pushing the state of graphical presentation art never seemed to even be a core interest, much less competency.

Which is ironic, because a lot of that organizational choice seems reflected in Java, e.g. having to boil the ocean and re-implement everything for major arch changes.

[smm11]

Sun briefly toyed with OpenStep, or essentially the UI of the NeXT machines that morphed into today Apple's OS X interface.

Anything would have been better than CDE or OpenWindows at the time, and the NeXT GUI was quite innovative in the 90s.