[pps]

After exactly year of using it, I moved back to Notion, even though I have Roam for free. Thanks to Roam's hype they have backlinks now (+ it's possible now to create new page in another page/db with "[[", that will leave only link/mention to that new page), which means both structured and flat zettelkasten-style notes (done in some master notes DB) are possible, plus regular DBs and all of the other cool stuff. This is a complete solution for me, all of my notes are much better organised now. And yes, I know, Roam has much more features than backlinks, I was using all of them, queries and block references, and sidebar, and ..., but for real work I'm not missing anything else than a sidebar. Sidebar is the best part of Roam IMO, even Obsidian with their multipane can't compete with that. With Notion I can open new tab in browser or new window in desktop app and keep it side-by-side and it's ok too, not as good and fast experience as with Roam, but good enough.

[ito]

Thanks for sharing your experience - I have both for free as well, and I started with Notion. The problem is that Notion never stuck with me because it's hard to create pages/links at the same speed that you think / not as flexible, and I think Notion is better suited as a knowledge base with collaborators. Strong agree on the sidebar point, I don't use queries but am a strong user of references and embeds.

[coffeeling]

Wouldn't a Zettelkasten in Notion be most natural as a page with a template button to create a new note, and the new page had a template button to create children, etc...

That way it'd end up as a branching tree the way an actual zettelkasten would and would probably be more searchable.