[martin_renou]

Mamba and conda do not call pip.

You can install a pip package inside a conda environment. But when running `mamba install` or `conda install`, pip is not involved at all.

[rdlfo]

I got a bit confused by the statements in the thread. If the issue is downloading wheels to check dependencies, mamba should be a better alternative, as not only it is downloading packages in parallel but it uses a different dependency solver.