[olefoo]

When you can't help yourself from firing ethicists; you might have an ethics problem.

[cinbun8]

So anyone that fires ethicists is not ethical?

[microtherion]

This pattern sometimes happens in other businesses: Banks with a culture of yelling at the compliance department. "Independent" Auditors getting pressured to sign off on the books of a company, etc. The pushback is not always entirely unjustified — I've been annoyed myself at how much easier a legal department finds it to say "no" than "yes" — but it's often a warning sign.

[olefoo]

Let's just say that it is a strong tell that one's ethics may not be defensible if your ethics watchdog is threatening to resign.

Consider for instance the exit of Walter Shaub from the Trump Administration.

https://www.npr.org/2017/07/06/535781749/ethics-office-direc...

[microtherion]

You can say about coal mine owners what you want, but at least they didn't have a habit of firing their canaries.