[Analemma_]

> it strange to see such a normally open-minded community (hackers) shut it down with such vehemence whenever it comes up

It isn't really that strange, Urbit is the antithesis of the hacker mindset in multiple ways. Hackers value free exchange of information; Urbit is deliberately obscuratinist. Hackers tend to lean libertarian; Yarvin is an out-and-proud authoritarian and Urbit is explicitly designed around that ethos.

[basilisks]

I don’t understand how it’s obscurantist. I’m a novice and am having fun learning the language. It’s open-source.

[recursive]

I gave it a go a couple of years ago, and couldn't figure out a single thing. Like, not only did I not achieve "hello world", I never managed to figure out if "hello world" is a meaningful thing you can even attempt.

Maybe it's different now, but I cannot fathom a programming novice making any kind of sense out of urbit.