[feanaro]

You said the distinction between a probabilistic world and a deterministic one is incoherent. But if there is no local realism, wouldn't it be more accurate to describe your position as saying all events are probabilistic rather than none of them?

[ikeboy]

No. All events being probabilistic is still realism, just in a weaker sense than Bell.

[feanaro]

Yeah, I'm grasping at straws because I don't really understand what your position is from the things you said in this thread.