[Ardon]

"Daily use" might be a biiit of a stretch with this hardware, but it'll be functional.

I think Pinephone 2, whenever that happens, will be a much more practical convergence device. Pine64's plans to upgrade to the RK3566 SOC in their low-power devices look very promising.

[linmob]

I made a couple videos on convergence already (https://linmob.net, my video channels are linked). In a recent live stream (I’ll definitely publish that segment) I used Gnome 3 on the docked PinePhone and it was surprisingly good.

[fsflover]

If you are waiting for "Pinephone 2", take a look at Librem 5: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5

[jcun4128]

$800? The ram is 3GB so wondering what the huge jump in price is.

[fsflover]

https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...

and

https://puri.sm/posts/breaking-ground/

Upd: from a consumer point of view, the answer would be "because it is innovative" [0] and it has much faster RAM and GPU [1].

[0] https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...

[1] https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-p...

[jcun4128]

Yeah those are valid points about the better quality material/more capability/development/non-outsourced hardware/people. I guess that's tough though as you can get a nice Android/other phone for $800 but yeah.

Tinfoil-hat engaged... the Shenzhen thing idk while it has physical switches have I personally routed those switches to check the devices are actually off. I've kind of given up on that kind of thinking anyway since I don't tape up my phone's webcams/mic/battery off/faraday cage/led container/etc haha.

Anyway sorry tangent, I'm not really getting Linux phones with privacy as main intent just the idea of a "desktop experience" on a phone is great.

[fsflover]

> Tinfoil-hat engaged...

This is a valid concern. Purism publishes schematics and x-ray images, so anyone can search for hardware backdoors themselves.

https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...

In addition, there is "Made in USA" version of the phone for $2000.

[jcun4128]

It is a dumb argument on my part since while you can read through source code say assuming it's publicly accessible/not compiled... am __I__ personally going to scan through code line by line to know what's in there...

> Of course nobody alone can review the millions of lines of code that are required to make a modern operating system and its software, but having a large community of people who can look at the code and fix problems when they find them provides far more transparency than a security model based on trusting giant tech companies.

> "Made in USA" version of the phone for $2000

Yeah that's tough too man... it is nice regarding supporting domestic development but man.

Anyway as a whole I hope it becomes more ubiquitous although I imagine most people just want their phone to work not something they have to program/assemble/etc(I mean it does work OOB) but still not mainstream like Android/iOS. The app market share thing too as I remembered that may have been a big contributor to why the Windows phones died which I loved the design at the time I had a Lumia 920.

But yeah thanks for the info/providing both sides.

[blihp]

Profit margin expectations.