[cyberlurker]

I’m confused by this comment too. Why Detroit? It has the third highest rate of any US city in 2017. Was that the point?

For comparison the US national rate in 2019 was 5 and NYC (more comparable to London and Shanghai) has a rate of 2.8.

Yeah, look ... I like the 2A too and don’t think guns cause higher murder rates. But there is no data to support the narrative that Europe and other countries are more dangerous in some way because they don’t have guns.

Edit: To be clear, there is no evidence that they are more dangerous. They look safer.

[hnick]

I think "culture problem" is code for something else given that one of the other cities was also US.

[sushshshsh]

NYC is smoothed out by a population of millions of people. Take a look at DC... Take a look at the average small American town. Most have 0 murders, or 1 or 2. Not everywhere is like Chicago and Detroit with hundreds of murders a year