Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by throwaway201103 2032 days ago
What if you only have linux computers at home and can't run their spyware?
3 comments

This is precisely what I said to one of my professors this semester and thankfully they were reasonable and didn't use Respondus for either of the exams like they had planned.
If you have a linux computer you can boot from usb or a second drive to run windows. That's what I did when I had to take exams using Proctortrack.
While I agree with you that most people who run Linux as a daily driver might be capable of running Windows as a secondary OS on occasion, this discounts the fact that he or she would be required to purchase the license (else break the law), and also ignores the fact that they should not be required to do so
That hasn't really stopped colleges before. I've had quite a few classes where the textbook cost more than a Windows license.
You’re right, but I still think it is not fair for the university to require you to run certain software if it does not directly benefit your learning
While I'm against the use of crappy anticheat software, the windows solution would be easy for institutions with volume licensing. Perhaps a fair middle ground is to force institutions to provide bootable USB drives so students avoid corrupting their own installations.
Recent versions of Windows have made it a lot harder to install through USB. A month ago I tried to install Windows 10 onto an old laptop SSD mounted in an enclosure and connected through USB so I could play a games with my brother online that was only available through the Windows store, but the installer literally refused to install to it because I was using the Home edition of Windows instead of Enterprise. I eventually found a solution through some freemium backup software that allowed copying an installation on a regular hard drive onto a USB, but weirdly the first software I tried that claimed to have this feature did not yield in the SSD being bootable, so I had to find something else that was able to do it properly. Given that Microsoft went out of their way to disable doing this directly in their installer, I wouldn't be too surprised if it the workarounds continue to become more difficult or even impossible without paying for the Enterprise version (which is not something students should ever have to pay for).
Education = Enterprise edition for all practical purposes, so they wouldn't have to pay.
step one: purchase windows

honestly, I think the question was more of "what should the educators do?" not "what should the student do?

I've never dealt with this software but when I did my CS degree, several of the applications we worked with throughout the course were distributed as Windows binaries. If you'd ever done homework or study at all, you don't only have Linux.
> If you'd ever done homework or study at all, you don't only have Linux.

Speak for yourself; at my school, even the class that used C# worked with mono.

I never need to use Windows or MacOS for any of my classes in college (although I initially did for the first few months of freshman year before I first started using Linux). For some classes, the students using MacOS or Windows actually had to jump through more hoops; one class required us to ssh into the school's Linux server for some assignments, which required Windows users to download extra software due to not having an ssh client by default (at least, not back then; I'm not sure if powershell has one now), and in another, we had to use Xilinx, a proprietary IDE for writing Verilog to design circuits for FPGAs, which only had builds for Linux and Windows, not MacOS. For the latter one, the TAs literally distributed flash drives with an Ubuntu VirtualBox instance for the Mac users (who comprised the majority of CS students at my university).
> several of the applications we worked with throughout the course were distributed as Windows binaries

Because most linux users use their distribution's packages and it is normally easier than hunting for windows binaries.

Need an assembler? `sudo apt-get install nasm`, etc. I am a math/cs undergrad and have not used a windows machine in over 6 years. (In my case it would be editing either editing my home.nix or creating a shell.nix for a course rather than apt/dnf/etc)

> If you'd ever done homework or study at all, you don't only have Linux.

If something applies to your low quality university it does not mean that it applies everywhere.

Your experience does not match mine at all. I earned a CS degree with a computer that only had Linux installed and I never missed Windows.