[v77]

If you pre-destory the environment you are trying to save I'm not sure what you've accomplished. If climate change is envirionmental problem 1a) then habitat destruction is certainly 1b) and low-density renewable energy sources are a huge problem here as are riparian-destorying damns.

[freeone3000]

The environment we're trying to save is large swaths of arable zones for human habitation. Fish are nice, but we need to be able to grow wheat.