[cpsempek]

Beautiful bike, but very disappointed to see a standard drivetrain. For a commuter I'm only interested in one with a belt drive and internal gearing. I'm not sure why these drivetrains are not becoming more common, especially for commuters.

[DenisM]

Geared hubs could be quite heavy, certainly so for large number of gears.

OTOH with an electric motor you might not need gearing at all - the motor will help you in a difficult situation: https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/28/21344679/gogoro-eeyo-1s-e...

[reportingsjr]

Belt drives can be nice, but the reason they aren't as common is because they are incredibly expensive, unless you're getting a single speed which many, many people aren't going to want.

I don't know if part of the reason they are so expensive is because they are a niche bike item, and bike stuff is already hideously overpriced, or if there is another reason.

[cpsempek]

Fair point, but this isn't a cheap bike, so maybe at least make the option available?

I also am not certain on the exact reasons why internal gear hubs and belt drives are more expensive. I imagine manufacturing those hubs are more costly just by the nature of their design. It also used to be the case that you needed a specific frame built for a belt drive to run one, but they make breakable belts now so that's no longer a huge restriction.

I have heard in Europe where bike commuting is far more common in the US where I'm living that belt drive and internal gearing are more common, but this was hearsay.

[ogre_codes]

Internal gearing is generally a lot heavier as well as being more expensive. Looking at the priorities on this build, I suspect that was as important as price.

[fulafel]

They are not expensive, lots of sub €500 city bikes have them them.

[fulafel]

Never mind, thought we were talking about internal gear hubs.

[CamperBob2]

Two things I've learned never to criticize on HN: derailleurs and rail transit. Fair warning...

[cpsempek]

Haha wasn't aware of this, but making note now.