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by crankyoldcrank 2036 days ago
>Just 100 years ago, people were being forced to work on ships, in factories, on farms,

You know those jobs are still necessary, right? Still exist? People are just as forced into them now as they were in 1920 especially outside the developed world. You're complaining that life in antiquity was hard and attributing it to a failure of society.

What if it's just the nature of reality that life is hard, brutish, and short, and the slice of modernity we've enjoyed briefly for the last half century has been a reprieve offered by liberalism?

Also how do you even bundle anti maskers and authoritarians in one sentence? Anti maskers aren't telling people not to go to church or visit their families, or to die alone. The authoritarians are on the other side, like Mr Andrew Cuomo. He's the one literally persecuting Jews in New York for practicing their beliefs in a way that is politically unfashionable due to a disease with a 99.9% survival rate.

You might disagree with them but anti maskers are anti authoritarian. They are literally fighting authority.

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It's not much of a consolation, but "forced" back then meant "no other options" (except death). People were Shanghaied onto ships, forced to work for someone else for little to no pay, or because they simply had debts, and they had no state-mandated rights.

Lots of people have sacrificed their lives to give us a better one. I'm only from an ex-USSR country, and I've never been to countries worse off, but from what I read, workers rights have taken hold pretty much everywhere.

The anti-maskers/pro-authoritarians part was in reply to "people are gathering in groups based on their levels of competence, interests and views".

Yes, everyone gathers in their own groups with narrow views, and they don't have to live or even communicate with people who have different views. So they don't even try to understand the opposing point of view. It's automatically just them "being dumb", "just wrong" or "fake news" or whatever.

It might make for more effective social associations in the short term, but I don't see how it's sustainable in the long term. It's the same exact type of divide that exists between the wealthy and the rest.