[philplckthun]

> "in talent to do the job."

It's a matter of perspective as well though, so both sides are correct. "The job" here can talk about very different engineering roles and levels, which will have a different hiring pool by market and by saturation.

From my own experience running interviews, even in the same "community's" hiring pool in the same location you can expect large differences depending on what position and skill set you're hiring for at that moment.

I find it more worrying that over years I've seen that some engineers are attempting to optimise the interviewing process on their end. Obviously instead interviews should optimise to appeal to candidates and make the process equitable, quick, and accurate, without nonsense like coding challenges that don't relate to the job.

[thrt23049away]

""The job" here can talk about very different engineering roles"

You seem to be saying there is an area of softwre engineering that is not saturated candidate-wise.

Well, don't hold us in suspense -- go ahead and tell us specifically what sort of engineering role you were referring to here!

[philplckthun]

No worries! Snark received.

As we go up the engineering career ladder and land on more specialised roles with the necessary experience, both from a technical and managerial perspective, the funnel definitely shrinks. I won't deny that that looks different from place to place, but it's hard to deny that it will take years still for any saturation we see to take place on the higher part of the career ladder as people specialise more as they get there.

Specifically once we started looking for engineering management and principal level roles that still bring the technical expertise we'd expect the hiring pool was definitely not saturated.

[thrt23049away]

thanks for the additional thoughts.