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by mikece 2038 days ago
“Always bet on the web.”

PWA trumps mobile apps — until or unless it can be articulated why a PWA/hybrid app won’t work, but that is the small minority of app cases.

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Unfortunately PWA seems to have almost no adoption at all. I'm not sure why that is. Native features missing? Developers want to fingerprint you? Distribution mechanisms insufficient? All I know is PWA seems to have stalled.
One issue with PWAs is that Apple has hobbled what they can do on iOS. I think this prompts a lot of would be adopters to skip PWA and go straight to packaging their app with electron.
>PWA trumps mobile apps

In what sense? Most people use mobile apps than browse the web through mobile -- and most surf from mobile vs PC.

(The fact that said mobile apps might be web-based is an implementation detail).

Because then you don't have to download and install an app
That's a non issue in modern mobile phones (which people use more than desktops/laptops these days).
Not an issue to do and hence not an issue for public at large. But apps come with plenty of their own issues which is gaining public recognition. It is early days yet though.

Personally:

- I find it odd to need an app for a service entirely reliant on off-phone data.

- I like my phone battery life. I avoid apps if I can help it. Web page links all over my home screen.

>- I find it odd to need an app for a service entirely reliant on off-phone data.

Well, a browser is an app for services entirely reliant on off-phone data :-)

Just a generic one, slower, more battery hungry, with less platform conveniences and access to native APIs.

"Well, a browser is an app for services entirely reliant on off-phone data :-) Just a generic one"

Which is what I was trying to say though I did it poorly I guess. :-) Why do I need an app when the website will do just fine?

"slower, more battery hungry, with less platform conveniences and access to native APIs"

I think the efficiency loss is traded for the lack of always on services and privacy invasion common in native apps these days.

The important function of the web browser is the sandbox effect.

[citation needed]

My mum wont install an app unless she has to. In my eyes this has failed the grandmother test.

Isn't your anecdotal statement that which should be replaced by a citation, as it's an of-no-use example-of-one? Whereas what I said might not have been accompanied by a citation, but it's a general statement, easily verifiable, including with citations:

https://www.mobiloud.com/blog/mobile-apps-vs-the-mobile-web#....

Not to mention there's no "grandmother test" as some kind of ultimate marketing gatekeeper, unless you market adult pads or something. I'm pretty sure lots of billion dollar industries fail the "grandmother test" too (youth-oriented ones, self-selectively so).

Same for the CEO of my company. Each additional app is a potential security risk they want to minimize. Web browsers they don’t seem to understand the risks as well. They think of webpages as being a potential attacker on the street that they can just avoid where as an app is a potential burglar of their home with their prized possessions
Apple hobbles PWAs on iOS, so unless app creators want to ignore the most profitable segment of the mobile marketplace PWAs aren’t a solution
It's true that apple hobbles PWAs on their mobile devices. But not everyone uses those devices and most apps don't make money off the initial purchase.