[rmrk]

was making sense until the bs "both sides" conclusion: "We have two donor-fattened parties that across decades of incompetence have each run out of convincing pitches for how to improve the lives of ordinary people."

I find the ideas of fixing healthcare, reinvesting in our economy and infrastructure, and shoring up our social programs highly convincing. And I'm pretty sure the polls show those ideas resonate across the political spectrum. And I only hear those ideas coming from one party.

[awakeasleep]

Both parties campaign on fixing healthcare.

After the latest fixes, insurance for a self employed family of four is about $25k a year after insurance and deductibles.

[slfnflctd]

I'm not 100% sure what the point you're making here is, but in case the reader is unaware, under the Trump administration, the ACA was definitely heavily gutted (https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/10/14/7687316...).

Over less than 3 months, a friend of mine's monthly premium went up an order of magnitude - with reduced benefits - to the point where it made no sense to do anything but drop it completely and start seeing a doctor who takes cash.

There was nothing wrong with the concept other than the failure to include single payer. Democrats under Obama managed to come up with something less good which still was a net gain, but it was destroyed by Republicans. Just wanted to make that clear.

[slfnflctd]

Apologies, I forgot that discussing partisan politics is discouraged here. This one just gets me riled because there's so much misinformation around it. Regardless of political party, it would benefit us all in the long run to find sustainable ways of improving access to health care.

[syshum]

What exactly was "gutted" other than the Fine if you did not carry insurance? Which was largely regressive and blatantly unconstitutional but since they labeled the fine a "tax" it just scraped since the court system has not ruled a federal program unconstitutional since FDR threaten to Stack the court.