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by martey 2035 days ago
The Wired article that this SyFy blurb is based on has more details (and more criticism) - https://www.wired.com/story/inside-spinlaunch-the-space-indu...

> One former employee, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to their nondisparagement and nondisclosure contracts, acknowledged the gulf between theory and reality. They described SpinLaunch’s prototype centrifuge as a relatively unsophisticated machine that “any average engineering team could put together.” The employee said that scaling up to a functional suborbital launcher is going to be “very challenging” with SpinLaunch’s resources. The employee also cited the inexperience of some of the leaders. “The foresight to predict many of the issues that are going to happen was definitely lacking,” they said.

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Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I didn't want to dismiss them fast, but it did sound like the founders don't know what they're up to.

Maybe they figured out some advanced materials science we don't know about, but that seems unlikely from this article.

> Over the next few years, the team ran hundreds of high-speed tests. Most of them were to study and improve the system, but some were to mollify skeptical investors and potential customers who didn’t believe a payload could withstand the extreme forces. The team sent solar cells, radio systems, telescope lenses, batteries, GPS modules, and control computers whirling at high speeds; they all survived with little to no damage. In one test, Yaney attached an iPhone to the tether and spun it up until it experienced forces 10,000 times stronger than gravity. Afterward, he used the phone to FaceTime a colleague. Each test was a step, however small, toward space.

Something tells me that an iPhone definitely cannot withstand forces of 10,000g.

Like someone below said, this either has mil implications or a way to separate investors from their money.

Juan Alonso, an aerospace engineer at Stanford who did due diligence for one of SpinLaunch’s investors, understood my reservations. “It's an exotic technology, and the first time you hear about it you think there's no way that could possibly work,” he says. But after checking out the math himself, Alonso gave the investment firm the green light.

So a Stanford guy is putting reputation on stake. Interesting.

Assume the screen and top glass of an iPhone are 40 grams.

10000g's will make the effective mass of them 400kg.

Could an iPhone survive 400kg sitting on top of it?

It's definitely within the realm of possibility...

The force is acting on internal parts too. I don't think the silicon microchip inside can survive those forces.

There is just too much that could go wrong here.

I would be positively shocked if this thing works. I'd have to rethink a lot of things I hold an opinion on.

The microchip can definitely survive. I'd be worried about the MEMS accelerometer and microphones, though. I would have assumed the glass itself was the biggest risk, but if the phone is "full" enough of stuff that there's nowhere for it to bend internally then it could be surprisingly durable.
Electronics are usually the key payload - but things like water, fuel, and other 'potential solids' could use a cheap way to get them out of the gravity well.
Maybe they cushioned it? Embedded in a gel or some such. That definitely helps.
How many G is a drop on concrete?
https://physics.stackexchange.com/a/173307 can be helpful to finding this out.
1, I guess.
No, the number of G's are related to the deceleration when hitting the ground.
No, the deceleration on hitting the ground is a lot more than 1g.
This quote is a gem too:

> We’ve been putting together a team of engineers who, for the most part, are too young to say SpinLaunch couldn't work.

A fair strategy, but not one that inspires a lot of confidence.
We've changed the URL to that from https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/spinlaunch-centrifuge-slingsho.... Thanks!