[sleepysysadmin]

>My assertion, paradoxically, is that polarization has greatly diminished the quantity of information being produced and consumed via today's press despite the sea of content they produce.

Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media.

Noam Chomsky

I agree with Chomsky here.

>In today's polarized media, each side of the media discourse has established its perspective, and the content they publish conforms to this perspective.

"Each side" is very interesting. The sentence is far more accurate when you remove "each side" The US media is tremendously uniform. There is no side here.

This level of uniformity cannot come about naturally.

>"A free press is one of the pillars of democracy." - Nelson Mandela

The interesting thing, people have started to realize how bullshit journalism has become. Suddenly big tech is going ham with censorship basically implementing the same uniformity.

As we can see, there's no free press. There will be many who will try to justify why there's no free press.

[anigbrowl]

This level of uniformity cannot come about naturally.

Thomas Schelling says otherwise. See http://nifty.stanford.edu/2014/mccown-schelling-model-segreg... and consider the idea of voluntarty ideological segregation in a virtual space.

[sleepysysadmin]

I haven't seen that before thanks. I believe what it's showing is why echo chambers form or for that matter why people of similar nationality tend to live in the same neighbourhoods.

Not necessarily that all the major news agencies all push the same story and never question or challenge anything. Or for that matter only challenge the reverse.

[anigbrowl]

It's just the same process playing out on the semantic level between corporate actors.

[standardUser]

That sounds like a prognosis for a bygone era. There is nothing "uniform" about the news provided by MSNBC and OANN. Though I imagine that what we have now is not the kind of diversity of thought that Chomsky was hoping for.

[sleepysysadmin]

>That sounds like a prognosis for a bygone era. There is nothing "uniform" about the news provided by MSNBC and OANN. Though I imagine that what we have now is not the kind of diversity of thought that Chomsky was hoping for.

I've never heard of OANN until like yesterday. So I'm very curious where it's coming from. Wiki suggests it has been around for 7 years but I'm guessing it gets no views. Chomsky is not referring to some tiny venue.

He's talking about PBS, NPR, Fox, msnbc, News corp, ATT, time, CBS, and Disney.

They are virtually all the same. The beauty of capitalism is when something like this happens, if you can provide a new product that isn't what everyone else is providing. You can crush the competition. Hence why suddenly OANN is a thing? Though I'm looking at their wikipedia and apparently all they do is report on 'conspiracy theories'.

Which makes sense to me. Anyone outside the unification will be attacked as such.

[amanaplanacanal]

You should probably look for yourself rather than rely on Wikipedia to make your assessment. Newsmax is the other one I have been hearing about lately. They both do appear to be buying into the president’s election fraud story, if that’s what you are looking for.

[sleepysysadmin]

>You should probably look for yourself rather than rely on Wikipedia to make your assessment. Newsmax is the other one I have been hearing about lately.

I'm not American. I really don't need any of these. I do understand the extreme bias Wikipedia has shifted toward. It's not that I can believe in Wikipedia's stance on this OAN but rather I see is that they do have a clearly biased page against OAN. Their attack on them may be correct but it shows the attack.

>They both do appear to be buying into the president’s election fraud story, if that’s what you are looking for.

Every election has fraud. What's important is to be completely transparent about the entire process. Admit the truth and show how much fraud there was, that people were charged, and if the results are skewed. In a place like IOWA or California, there's no big concern to worry about fraud. The win will be 1 sided.

In a place like Michigan where it doesn't smell right. The importance of transparency is tantamount to the process. What did they do? They threw out watchers and cardboarded the windows. That's literally the opposite of transparency.

Ultimately at the end of the day. Trump is done, but trust by the republicans in the election system has been eroded. Having MSNBC repeat that there was NO FRAUD isn't proving anything.

The political divide in the USA was virtually all Democrat sided. This has increased the political divide by moving the Republicans.

[standardUser]

OANN and Newsmax should become part of your vocabulary. They are growing rapidly and they are absolutely nothing like the companies you listed. Millions of people consider them gospel.

[rosmax_1337]

I agree with this post, specifically the part about uniformity. People will say various news outlets differ from eachother in ideology, but really, you will not find a major news agency that is truly at odds with the establishment.

The only news reporting agencies which are actually in opposition to the current are the so called "alternate news sites", those which are also branded as fake news factories or hate centrals by the mainstream media.

The classical liberalism which arguably founded the western societies has been completely overthrown and subjugated by neoliberal leftism of various degrees, multicultural mania etc.