[rwhaling]

for background, the original author of nbdev has a good post outlining exactly how it relates to jupyter -

https://www.fast.ai/2019/12/02/nbdev/

[kowlo]

Strange... "Nbdev is a system for something that we call exploratory programming." but no citation... the phrasing suggests this is something they believe they've come up with a name for?

[tmabraham]

The term has a wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploratory_programming

[kowlo]

I'm aware, what I'm confused about is why they've phrased it as if it's something they call exploratory programming, as if they've coined the term.

[jph00]

I coined the term - and it turns out someone else did too, for something else. So be it. If someone else can think of a better term that's never been used before, then I'll happily use that instead.

The earlier usage mentioned in Wikipedia is entirely uncited there however, and seems to have only been used in one academic project AFAICT.

[kowlo]

How are you sure you didn't just read it somewhere and then forgot? It has been mentioned many times in related literature (even in publication titles) https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22exploratory+programm...

Here's one from 1988 https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/51607.51614

Are these unrelated? Is Nbdev not only a "new programming environment", but also a new concept that needs a new name?

[tlarkworthy]

"In some cases the estimates may be obvious. Perhaps the story is similar to others that have already been completed. In other cases the story may be very difficult to estimate and may require exploratory programming."

Kent Beck and Martin Fowler

http://index-of.es/Java/Planning%20Extreme%20Programming.pdf

Its a commonly understood term AFAIK

[jph00]

It's certainly possible. Smalltalk is absolutely an important inspiration for nbdev, and that's a really great reference that you pointed out.

[disgruntledphd2]

I'd probably call that analytics or analysis.

[mikewarot]

In electronics, we call it Breadboarding, and the results are expected to be temporary by all involved. Breadboarded circuits generally are not stable over time or movement.