[rchaud]

Quite a big difference between the two examples, wouldn't you say?

The worst thing said about Hubspot in the book is that it's a cold-calling meat grinder for new college grads, and that company basically embodied all the ridiculous rah-rah stereotype of startup culture. That's what I remember at least.

Uber OTOH had a culture of sexism and sexual harrassment that the CEO failed to address, while also flouting taxi laws in several countries and losing unimaginable amounts of money chasing pipe dreams like self-driving cars.

[gk1]

My point wasn't that they are equal, but that a company can change a lot (for the better) over four years.