[slavak]

You're either a troll, or _really_ confused about what Socialism is.

I know this isn't the spirit of comments HN encourages, but I really can't afford to waste the time on writing a thoughtful reply to someone who is, most likely, purposefully ignorant. So I'll just link you to Wikipedia instead:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

[gazillionaire]

Socialism is not a definition on Wikipedia. Also, is this a joke: "A non-market socialist system eliminates the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system in capitalism." - that's on Wikipedia? Seriously?

That is the dream version of socialism, not the reality. In reality socialism consistently fails to "eliminate inefficiencies", rather, it does the opposite.

But we shouldn't discuss socialism here, that is true.

I merely stated what would be the reality under socialism (which has been the case in previous attempts to implement socialism), which is that you would be assigned a job and you would be supposed to gratefully do it for the common good, not for personal gains.

I have friends to grow up under socialism. I suspect many Americans simply live to far away from real socialist countries. I guess you could ask Cuban refugees what they think, though.