[izacus]

> For many of them, it is youtube or nothing.

Is this really true? I mean, there are hundreds of video hosting sites, is YT really the only way of making any money?

This is like saying that the only way to make your business sustainable is to get a reserved place on NY Times Square... are you really entitled to it?

[watwut]

I don't know about hundreda of video hosting sites. I know aboit two: youtube and twitch. I tried something else maybe twice.

I am pretty representative for typical user. Typical user turns on yoitube and only things in there exists.

[alisonkisk]

Typical users aren't relevant here. We're talking about Patreon supporters, people who gave money to a single creator and want an ad free video. They can click a link to vimeo.

[bluGill]

But they need to know first. Who looks for something new on viemo? Sure if someone points you to them you will look, but do you go there just to see if there is anything interesting when you are bored?

[watwut]

Patreon supportes dont come from nowhere. They come from watching your videos and hearing "support me on patreon" one too many times.