[brbsix]

Given their extensive history posting similar promotional material every time that they run out of cash, it would be wise to remain skeptical of this announcement.

For the unacquainted, they've made outrageously false claims like this more times than I can count. I don't have the time or interest to outline all the lies but here's when it "began shipping" back in 9/2019.[0][1] As to the one person in the forums who claims to have received it, and the other on reddit who claims to have a tracking number, we've seen that before as well.

[0]: http://archive.today/2019.09.06-222312/https://puri.sm/posts...

[1]: "The Librem 5 smartphone. Now Shipping" 9/25/2019 https://youtu.be/AuT2w6BkT-k http://archive.today/S7lCT

[kop316]

>As to the one person in the forums who claims to have received it, and the other on reddit who claims to have a tracking number, we've seen that before as well.

Judging by the timeline, I presume you are specifically talking about me? I DID get a Birch device last year, and I posted about it. I also cancelled the AMA because I got demands for all sorts of things, on a holiday weekend! People got angry because I didn't reply to their demands right away and thought I was some sort of undercover employee. No, I put away my electronics when I spend time with family!

I frankly don't blame people for not wanting to post about it, after the crap that I went through and seeing atitudes like this.

[wott]

> I also cancelled the AMA because I got demands for all sorts of things, on a holiday weekend! People got angry because I didn't reply to their demands right away

Absolutely nobody did that to you.

> and thought I was some sort of undercover employee.

One (1) guy did that and was downvoted, while you were massively upvoted and complimented.

> the crap that I went through and seeing atitudes like this.

You went through nothing at all, and yet all of a sudden you completely lost your shit and started flooding the sub with nonsensical one-liners crapping on every person asking a question. And it was not the first you behaved so, you had done the same kind of things a few weeks earlier. I still remember you and those episodes because it is not often that we see someone throwing a tantrum like that for no reason, let alone twice in a row. "Attitudes" was the right word indeed.

Youve proven unable to fathom that the media is asynchronous and people asking questions (in an AMA of which you picked the day and time, how dare they?) does not compel you to answer immediately, or at all. The thread can last a week or more if needed, there is no need to drop what you are doing if that's your precious week-end time.

By the way, nobody knows about your holidays, nobody knows about your family, nobody knows about your habits, nobody knows about your schedule and how you manage them. Nobody could, especially considering it is only one year later, on a different media, that you start mentioning it.

> I frankly don't blame people for not wanting to post about it

Others similar threads went OK, the current thread today is going fine. Don't blame others for derailing threads when you were the one doing it.

[MacsHeadroom]

They did ship and have been shipping batches. This is the mass production run, not the early adopter dev phones you can find on eBay.

[brbsix]

You could address the substance of my comment by providing evidence. I'm trying to be polite about it, but the astroturfing is obvious.

[fsflover]

https://forums.puri.sm/t/received-my-librem-5-evergreen/1087...

https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... (see also other questions there)

[brbsix]

The author of that forum post is unwilling to publish video of the device.

[kop316]

As someone who did an AMA for my Birch device, that is frankly an incredibly selfish attitude. I got people who thought I was some sort of employee of Purism just because I was willing to answer questions and did so nicely, and then people got upset because I didn't post things they wanted (and spread the exact sort of non-sense you are spreading now).

Publishing any sort of video takes a non-trivial amount of time, especially when one has never even attempted to try doing so before. The owner of that device isn't being paid to put that up there. I really don't blame the owner one bit for not wanting to do that, especially when I see attitudes like this. I also don't blame others for NOT wanting to do forums posts like that, when there are attitudes like this.

[fsflover]

The author posted a picture: https://forums.puri.sm/t/received-my-librem-5-evergreen/1087...

[dancemethis]

I know you wanted to make an important point of proof, but let's face it: astroturfing is a horrible word and it should be extinguished and substituted for something that doesn't make the reader feel like they are in orbit in a space suit surrounded by giant glazed donuts.

[The_Colonel]

They infamously claimed to ship the first batch which then proved to be a lie.

This is a "mass production run", but basic things like camera are not working.