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by mister_hn 2041 days ago
I hope that with these bans, actually the government will take action on the high prices of electric vehicles and on the charging infrastructure.

A middle-size car can't cost € 40.000 (without batteries!), a lot of people can't afford them.

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> the government will take action on the high prices of electric vehicles and on the charging infrastructure

Why spend money on access to more vehicles instead of improving public transport.

If we are serious about the environment and the whole 3x R's, we should treat vehicles as the luxury that they are.

If you have to commute between your remote farm and your nearest city sure maybe there should be a government incentive. But if you are within an urban setting incentivizing more vehicles (eletric or otherwise) is not a good government investment in my view.

I think a big issue with people that say that public transit doesn't work for their particular use-case, or their logistics, or their 5 kids, is because they never experienced high quality, high frequency, reliable public transit.

This is arguably a near impossible task in Automotive-centric North and South America but it is absolutely feasible in Europe, Asia, and Africa.

When it comes to rural populations in places like Europe, I can see bio-fuel and things like e-diesel being a decent alternative for the country-side in the short term. It would cover most of the use-cases that are commonly used as "what if" counter-arguments, and it doesn't stop the urban populace from using electric/public transport.

Besides, it's not like the entire farming industry is going to switch to electric just like that; where I live, it's not uncommon to see 40+ year-old farming machinery in active use. In other words, it's going to take a long time before we get rid of diesel engines.

The major challenge, as far as I see it, will be to implement different rules for different people, and getting the populace to go along with it. People generally dislike being told what to do, and any exceptions that can be considered unfair for anyone will be used as an argument against new legislation.

I know that decent electric cars will drop in price over time, but I don't know if they'll become in reach. I also am not convinced the secondhand market will be any good in the next decade, batteries have a limited lifespan and will need to be replaced eventually.

You can buy a beater for <1000 pounds which can still work just fine for a few years, I don't see that happening with electric cars.

I don't see a huge price drop before 2027-2028 at least.

EV feel like "luxury" ones because they are new. A VW ID.3 costs like a Mercedes Class E, which can be considered a high standard.