[varjag]

> That's not a good mission profile at all when a stealth bomber, range 10 000km, takes off with a hypersonic anti-ship cruise missile with a range of 2000km, and sinks your carrier before it can even be of any logistic use.

So far it's maybe remotely plausible in the second American Civil War, because no foreign enemy yet posses this capacity. No stealth bombers, and no hypersonic cruise missiles.

Otherwise yes a lot of hypothetical tech that can disable carrier fleet. Photon torpedoes, Yuri's mind control, genetically modified Krakens..

[TheOtherHobbes]

China and Russia have hypersonic missiles which can evade US targeting, and India is catching up fast. Russia and China are also developing stealth bombers.

Bottom line is that carrier groups are already sitting targets and unlikely to last long in a superpower conflict.

[m4rtink]

First the elegant Battleships and now the might Aircraft Carriers are on the way out...

Is a goon-swarm free-for-all really the future ruler of the seas?

[ende]

This argument already played out between the carrier and sub fleets during the Cold War. The carrier is not the next battleship, that’s just lazy analysis.

[sudosysgen]

The tactics in the Cold War were based essentially on preventing the enemy from knowing to a good level of certainty the position of the Cold War, for long enough to send submarinesm.

This is not a viable technique in 2020.

[sudosysgen]

Both China and Russia have stealth bomber prototypes due to be online in the next few years.

Also, the Russian 3M22 Hypersonic Cruise missile is in testing as of today, so they definitely do have one. China is also working on it.

It seems to me that you're seriously overestimating the technological lead of the US.