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by salamimonger 2042 days ago
>Let's hear some specific predictions of things that the Trump administration has been behind that you believe those who opposed him will support if the Biden administration does them.

This is explicitly making it about Trump, when I did not mention him at all. Perhaps he lives rent-free in your head? Seems to be the case for many people.

What I said, could be said the same of Trump in 2016. His constituents voted him in because x, y, and z reasons. And then he proceeded to backtrack on them because of "reasons". And his supporters then shifted, instead of calling him out for his betrayal of their ideals. I argue that the same will happen again with Biden. Too many people voting against Trump, rather than for someone they actually wanted, who could uphold their ideals. Biden is heavily entrenched within the establishment government. How could anyone expect otherwise? He should know better than anyone what is possible and what isn't possible, yet he'd campaign on those things anyway and people eat it up.

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> This is explicitly making it about Trump

It's picking Trump an explicit case with which to examine the generalization.

> [Trump] constituents voted him in because x, y, and z reasons... his supporters then shifted, instead of calling him out for his betrayal of their ideals. I argue that the same will happen again with Biden.

OK. Which things do you think that Biden voters are expecting him to do that he will backtrack on?

Also, are you laboring under one of the most common misconceptions about politics?

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trust-us-politicians-ke...

> Biden is heavily entrenched within the establishment government.

Yeah, I think that's what a lot of people who voted for Biden are expecting. Kindof like your spleen is a heavily entrenched establishment organ:

https://www.metafilter.com/185937/Elizabeth-Warren-exits-the...