[lern_too_spel]

That single event infected an order of magnitude more users that all the infections of Google and Amazon devices combined. I don't need to find any others. That single event also showed how ineffective Apple's malware scanning was because Apple relied on third parties to find the affected apps even after being given some examples. That process took even longer because Apple does not allow third parties to do this effectively.

> The lack of fragmentation, and the centralized control and ease over updates

As I said, if you're choosing a device to run, you don't select one at random from the set of all Android devices. You select one that receives timely updates. On the subject of ease of updates, Android is even better because system app updates do not require a reboot and instead happen silently in the background while the user continues to use the device. This is especially important for apps with large attack surfaces like web browsers, and this is why malware markets have priced mobile Safari exploits as essentially too cheap to meter.

[jb1991]

Well, it’s an interesting perspective you have. Worthy of consideration. It’s an idea that swims against the tide, as all of the objective third-party security researchers and antivirus companies that I’ve been reading seem to disagree with your assessment here. But thanks for sharing.

[saurik]

Please read this entire series of tweets, which starts off looking unrelated but is actually entirely focused on this topic. It was written by me--someone very famous in the security field--and I don't know if anyone in said field who disagreed with the Apple/security sentiments... that Apple was better than Android at malware issues ended 2-3 years ago.

https://mobile.twitter.com/saurik/status/1295024384596312064

[jb1991]

Those tweets make some valid points but it seems like a different topic than what we’ve been discussing. I guess I failed to see the connection to this particular issue.

[saurik]

The culminating moment of all of the security researcher hostility discussion was "The reality is that Apple has been so hostile to independent security research that they've lost their edge: exploits for Android now cost more than exploits for iOS, a reversal experts generally credit to Google correctly allowing researchers open access." https://www.wired.com/story/android-zero-day-more-than-ios-z...