[cwhiz]

It changes my evaluation of the claim, which is sourced by Greenpeace.

In the long run I have no doubt that Greenpeace will have caused more damage than the Koch family. We could have clean energy right now if it weren’t for the decades of nuclear fear mongering, and the Koch family isn’t even opposed to nuclear.

[arshbot]

Is this a troll? Comparing a single point on greenpiece's agenda to literally hundreds of millions of dollars Koch dollars to climate change deniers as a whole are simply incomparable.

Just in case this is somehow contestable, let me highlight a few points

* Climate change deniers oppose solutions that don't involve oil/gas/coal - this means nuclear power * Koch funding > greenpiece funding * greenpeice didn't start nuclear fear mongering, pro-oil lobbyists did - AKA climate change deniers.

[cwhiz]

You can’t compare all of Koch donations to Greenpeace. You can only compare their anti-climate change donations.

[Godel_unicode]

Greenpeace's annual budget for activism (as opposed to fundraising, which eats roughly 1/3 of their budget) is on the order of $200 million. That's more than the lifetime spending of the Koch brothers, and Greenpeace does that volume every year. They're not some scrappy little actor, they're one of the single largest lobbying groups in the entire world.

[lazyasciiart]

I don't know where you are getting your numbers, but they are orders of magnitude wrong. The Koch brothers also spend about $200million/year. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/27/koch-brothers-network-to-spe...

[chipotle_coyote]

Also, the numbers for Greenpeace are wrong, according to their annual reports.

https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/about/annual-reports-and-fina...

Their expenditures for all their "program services" (their various activism campaigns) was $27.4M in 2019 and $26.3M in 2018. If the Koch Bros. spend about $200M a year on activism, they're actually substantially outspending Greenpeace. Which, well, is to be expected: Greenpeace is a non-profit that's very often taking positions opposing major corporations.

(Greenpeace is actually a collection of quasi-independent groups around the world, but since the Koch's activism is primarily focused in the US, it makes sense to compare them to Greenpeace USA.)