[bananamerica]

Emacs is not an IDE, it’s a multipurpose tool with many of the same features commonly associated with IDEs. Spacemacs and Doom Emacs (my recommendation) are highly useful distributions that make a lot easier to achieve that goal.

But, even so, Emacs will still not be an actual IDE like those made by JetBrains.

You sacrifice some specificity for a world of flexibility.

An IDE-like Vim would be a negation of everything that Vim stands for. I don’t see any point in that.

If you really need an IDE, just use one.

[Geminidog]

>Emacs is not an IDE

No it's not. Why are you telling me something I never said? I believe you are utterly mistaken to believe that I hold this opinion.

>If you really need an IDE, just use one. >I don’t see any point in that.

You don't see the point because you completely missed the point.

I want an IDE that is as lightweight as vim/emacs and as powerful as a Jetbrains IDE and lives on the console.

So right now if I "just use" an IDE it's not lightweight as it likely runs on the JVM, I can't fire it up on a console when I'm ssh-ed into a server.

If I fire vim up on a server I can't get any code highlighting or code following or integrated graphical debugging without a lot of yak-shaving and even after I do the yak-shaving it's still not done as well.

I want both on one app. Now you may not like this idea, you may be opposed to it. But this is what I'm asking for and this is my opinion. I respect your opinion but please don't tell me to "just use" an IDE when that is not the topic of the conversation.

[bananamerica]

> No it's not. Why are you telling me something I never said? I believe you are utterly mistaken to believe that I hold this opinion.

For clarity maybe? Relax dude. You are not on trial.

[Geminidog]

>Relax dude. You are not on trial.

Uh. I am relaxed. I'm trying to get you to relax. You should be more self aware as you're actually the one that kind of seems on edge with your initial post.

You barge into this thread with a tone that is dismissive, opinionated and wrong. You're telling me to "just use an IDE" and also that "emacs is not an IDE." I'm just telling you to stop doing that.

I usually won't tell someone to "relax" or that they're "not on trial" because it's kind of insulting and dismissive. It's also a strategic move used to flip the script to make another party seem overly emotional.

Just Read the thread next time before you respond so aggressively with your opinionated views.

>For clarity maybe?

Nah not for clarity, this is a lie. People aren't stupid and they know why they say the things they say.

You said it because you believed that I held that opinion and you wanted to dominate the conversation by telling I'm wrong. You made a mistake and you didn't really read my post. Don't do it again.