[JKCalhoun]

> Why would I assume any company would act in my interests when they have clear incentives to increase their profits and control by acting counter to them?

I get what you're saying, but (as an Apple fanboy) I have to point out that Apple's incentives are to act in your, the customer's, interests since that is what they are selling now. They are differentiating themselves from the Googles by taking user privacy seriously.

If they act against that they lose their key advantage.

Trust but verify perhaps?

[Wowfunhappy]

Apple is incentivized to push you towards their services—to make installing from the App Store easier than sideloading, and to make first party services more useful than third party services. Those are not my interests.

I say this not to ascribe malicious intent—I do not think Apple implemented OCSP to push people towards the App Store. But incentives are funny things, and can cause people and organizations to rationalize all sorts of decisions, and conveniently ignore some side effects and not others.

[jasonv]

I live in a world where those incentives have created a platform where I can buy decent hardware to run the kinds of applications that aren’t available on the preferred platforms. Want a laptop that can last all day, edit 4K, and be operated as an appliance, not a passion project? You’ve got Windows and Apple. I have run Linux forever, from day one, and while it can run the services we need for the whole internet, it’s not desktop viable in the ways Windows and Linux are.

In this argument, I’m not sure that level of product development can be dismissed. I wish Apple had implemented this better, I just bought a Windows machine so I wasn’t dependent on one platform, I’m trying to move towards Linux again (to be aligned with my own values), but the engineering this community wants, and the readiness of the platform & product we can buy any day of the week at Best Buy ... doesn’t exist.

So I, personally incentivized to give Apple a bit of a pass on this one, and hope they iterate this solution in the right direction, and definitely hope they don’t turn the Mac App Store into the iOS App Store.

[staticman2]

It's not in my interest to have Apple censors control what web browser I run on my phone or what games I can play on my phone.

[revscat]

This is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

[zepto]

You aren’t their customer.

[saagarjha]

I’m an Apple customer and their interests don’t always line up with mine.

[zepto]

By ‘customer’ I mean target customer in a marketing sense.

In this sense, you are not their customer.

I am not either.

[alpaca128]

> They are differentiating themselves from the Googles by taking user privacy seriously.

Then please explain how that is consistent with Apple setting Google as default search engine in Safari ( https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/1/21310591/apple-google-sear... ).

As always, Apple only aims for environmentally-friendly actions and privacy as long as they profit from it and it makes a good news article. But then they ignore privacy when you're not looking, and making it unnecessarily hard to repair your devices.