[marta_morena_28]

> If you want to convince me about the graphics/ML capabilities, compare it to a 3090 RTX using running Vulkan/Cuda.

Woot? So you are buying a new Fiat Punto and compare it to the latest spec of a Koenigsegg? What are you even doing?

What we need to know is how these perform against previous MacBooks and potentially Microsoft Surface and Dell XPS. those are competitors.

[foxhill]

> Woot? So you are buying a new Fiat Punto and compare it to the latest spec of a Koenigsegg? What are you even doing?

under any other circumstance i’d agree with you. i think we can agree this is not the assertion apple are trying to push in their marketing of the M1.

if Fiat are going to claim their entry level punto is, in real world terms, faster that 98% of all cars sold in the last year, they’re inviting a lot of (fair) comparison.

the 1050 is a budget chip from 3 generations ago. even in the GPU space, nvidia are claiming that their mid range GPU (RTX3080) is outpacing their previous generation top-end GPU (RTX2080ti).

the parent comment has a fair point.

[hughw]

But the 1050 is a specialized GPU vs the general-purpose M1, and besides, the 1050 is from only three years ago. So what do you think the relationship between XTX6080 and and M4 will look like three years in the future?

[mch82]

I’d like to see comparisons of Tensorflow-gpu operations. Kind of like how Apple used to compare Photoshop filter or Final Cut performance across computers.

[nix23]

When both of them have nearly the same price...i take a Tesla not the Punto

[romanoderoma]

Is there a Tesla that lasted 20 years and after 500 thousand Kms is still functioning with little or no maintenance?

Switching to Apple has a cost, switching to Apple with Apple silicon has an even higher cost.

It all depends what you use your computer for, if you buy a Tesla you probably don't depend on your car, people buying entry level hw are people who don't need something fancy, they need a tool and good enough it's enough.

To reverse your analogy, if they have the same price, I take a computer that I can upgrade and actually own over an Apple

[nix23]

>Is there a Tesla that lasted 20 years and after 500 thousand Kms is still functioning with little or no maintenance?

Whe dont know yet.

>To reverse your analogy, if they have the same price,

I was thinking that Apple is the Punto, Apple never had a Koenigsberg.

[romanoderoma]

> Whe dont know yet

So no

> I was thinking that Apple is the Punto, Apple never had a Koenigsberg.

The Punto is reliable, durable, and easy to modify

And Koenigsberg is a burg in Germany, maybe you meant Koenigsegg?

[nix23]

>So no

You have a hell of a Fiat Punto

>The Punto is reliable, durable, and easy to modify

If you don't drive on salted streets..the frame oxidize under your butt.

>And Koenigsberg is a burg in Germany, maybe you meant Koenigsegg?

Yeah, but honestly i don't give a damn.

[romanoderoma]

Well, you can tweak a Fiat Punto to go as fast as 300km/h, you can't mess with Apple HW in any way though

You're stuck with what you bought :)

(in the article: Fiat Uno - 30 years old Fiat model - with Lamborghini engine runs at 320km/h)

https://www.automotorinews.it/2020/05/27/fiat-uno-motore-lam...