[cactus2093]

Probably the idea that you can pretend the truth is whatever you say it is, say whatever you want, never admit a mistake, and hundreds of millions of people will still back you up and continue to trust you. As seen by the president of the US ignoring election results, and countless other things done and said by that administration and their allies.

[djsumdog]

You realize this goes both ways. There are tons and tons of election irregularities. The presidential legal team has several lawsuits that are going forward and recounts going forward. There are literally tens of thousands of dead people who have voted in areas with very small margins.

So your statement ... you're making a truth. You're saying what you want it to be, even though there is tons and tons of evidence against that point (that the main stream media is intentionally ignoring and refusing to cover).

It goes both ways and our social psyche is now fragmented.

[cactus2093]

If you say so dude, and hey I have nothing against the using the legal process as it's intended. However there really is not tons of evidence, you haven't provided a shred of evidenced, nobody anywhere has produced any credible evidence of any of this. If they had the mainstream media would be all over it because any scandal is very good for their bottom line.

And I hope you'll retract your dangerous statements once the court cases are resolved and the recounts finished and not a single state is overturned.

[djsumdog]

I did a whole post on it here:

https://battlepenguin.com/politics/the-return-of-american-co...

There are a lot of irregularities and several states have already forced hand recounts because the margins are so close.

In PA and NV, they kicked out GOP observers. Why? Even if there is no foul play, that is a terrible thing to do. It. Looks. Bad. And it's illegal. Votes need to be tallied in front of both parties. They may have invalided hundreds of thousands of votes depending on a lawsuit.

Election fraud and voter fraud are very difficult to prove. America is no stranger to it (Remember Bush v Gore and Diabold voting machines?) But I think people had some hope the system was that corrupt. They were wrong, and America is.

[cactus2093]

You're just spewing garbage here.

The lawsuits in PA regarding kicking out GOP observers have been thrown out repeatedly, at this point the Trump campaign had to drop the claims about GOP observers not being allowed in from their lawsuits. Because there is zero basis to any of it.

The margins are close enough to recount, and nobody is arguing against a legal recount. But any reasonable person also recognizes that historically recounts don't change totals by tens of thousands of votes, so it is very unlikely to matter. The Florida results in the 2000 election you mention were much much closer than any state is in 2020.

Voter fraud is not at all difficult to prove. Many studies ballots have been analyzed in excruciating detail after elections, and surely will be done again this election. Voter fraud in the US is always extraordinarily rare. So far this election, one single case has been found in PA, and it was from a Trump supporter submitting a mail in ballot for his dead mother.

Not only are your claims untrue, they are so unfounded that there is hardly anything at all there to even refute https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/13/trump-vote...