[Jtsummers]

Python, though predominantly by technical non-programmer professionals. And it doesn't have quite the same RAD aspect with making GUIs that VB6 offered. I saw a lot of non-technical professionals using VB6 to make quick applications to solve their problem. The code would make you cry, but it worked.

And it wasn't web-based nonsense that's hosted on someone else's server for a monthly cost. They actually owned the results. That's a big difference versus what companies would offer today.

TCL/TK was great for making quick GUIs, but I never saw non-technical people use it for that purpose. Still seemed to be non-programmer, but still technical, professionals.

[akkartik]

Many languages seem to give the impression of being home-cooked early on. Ever do factories start small. But it's inevitably a mirage. If we want something that won't grow into something "industrial strength" that needs pip and virtualenv and God knows what else, we have to consciously make some scale-hostile design choices.

I've been poking at this problem: https://github.com/akkartik/mu