[speedgoose]

We use WhatsApp, which I don't really trust but if I'm sharing a picture to my family I don't expect each member to keep it in a vault.

[pdxandi]

Have you considered using Signal instead of WhatsApp for secure messaging?

[speedgoose]

Yes, and also Matrix. But WhatsApp is very popular in my family's country and everyone was already using it.

[grayhatter]

Why do people trust signal isn't it as black box as everything else? Or did they add reproduceable builds already?

[pdxandi]

Signal is open source: https://github.com/signalapp

[sitkack]

Encryption on Signal is all client side, the server can't see the plain text, says Signal.

[psnehanshu]

say WhatsApp too