[jandrusk]

And how do we know that the information presented is not itself disinformation? It's simply an appeal to authority with no data presented to validate the claims. Would love to hear them address the data in this video: https://youtu.be/Ztu5Y5obWPk

[pen2l]

Ah yes, lovely, Dr. Shiva, who claims Fauci and deepstate are behind coronavirus, is back at it with new hits!

[deathanatos]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Ayyadurai#%22EMAIL%22_in...

He also claims to have invented email — after it was invented.

[bitexploder]

Precisely. This is lies with statistics. Put enough graphs in front of an audience with no knowledge of how statistics worked and already predisposed to your message... spread it around. This guy is no better than Q anon wackadoodles. I know it’s best to refute their arguments but this guy is not worth listening to. He has an agenda and it’s clearly politically motivated. No need to wade into his web of statistical lies.

[pen2l]

He is in some ways part of the Qanon crowd. If you have the courage to dive into 8kun and other Qanon-related forums, a common refrain you'll discover is that Fauci must be replaced with Dr. Shiva. He's sort of their prophet as it turns out.

[deathanatos]

In addition to what others have said about the video's author being discredited in other, similar claims, many of the statements made on the CISA are trivially true, if you stop and think. E.g.,

> Rumor: If a social media account claims an identity, the account must be run by that person or organization.

I could claim to be the King of France himself right here, right now, but that wouldn't make it so.

As Buster (the rabbit) said: Someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and lie?

As another example, the claim that a website outage could be caused by something other than hacking — is trivial to prove by thinking about it. High load — particularly on election night, likely the busiest night for an election site — can cause the site to go down.

Further, most of them are backed by citations, many to not CISA. Even if you think "it's a giant federal conspiracy" many of the claims are still trivially fact checked by punching them into Google, where non-federal and non-governmental sources further back them up. (E.g., that voter rolls are generally public can be fact-checked that way.)

[bsamuels]

And how do we know that the guy in that youtube video isn't just another quack saying things so people will pay them attention?

If you're going to dismiss all information out of government agencies simply on the basis that they're authorities and you don't like what they have to say, you should probably buy a gun and move into the woods