[beaner]

Car accidents in specific are probably small, but they're representative of similar catastrophic events that will lead to death anyway, that would still be marked as covid.

The most common of which is simply old age. Certainly covid causes death in some people, that's indisputable. But If you catch it in your last 2 weeks while you're on your death bed anyway, it's not really clear that covid even accelerated it.

The death die with covid more often not only because it probably accelerates some old peoples' deaths, but because this very population is undergoing its end-of-life process anyway, and are going to die whether or not they have it.

[tshaddox]

> But If you catch it in your last 2 weeks while you're on your death bed anyway, it's not really clear that covid even accelerated it.

Okay, but what's unique about COVID where we're supposed to discount that? Surely we care about a murderer who kills an elderly person.

> and are going to die whether or not they have it.

This is true for all people and causes of death.

[beaner]

> Okay, but what's unique about COVID where we're supposed to discount that? Surely we care about a murderer who kills an elderly person.

I'm not sure what you're saying here. If a murder kills someone, the murder was the direct cause of death and we count it as murder. If you die of old age while having covid, it is not necessarily covid that is the killer, so it's not clear that it should necessarily be counted as the killer in all old-age cases.

> and are going to die whether or not they have it

Yes but... you understand I'm talking about the specific case of actually being on your deathbed, right?

[josephcsible]

> Surely we care about a murderer who kills an elderly person.

That's not what it is though. If you put poison in someone's food, and they die before they eat it, you didn't murder them.

[tshaddox]

Sure, but if police found out, the investigation and legal process would be roughly the same as if you had successfully murdered them. The legal penalty would likely be less, but both cases are still treated with roughly the same level of seriousness by the legal system.