[dragonwriter]

> 90% of professional python developers believe that python dependencies is a solved problem (with pip and virtualenv).

I doubt that even 90% of those professional python developers who believe that python dependencies is a solved problem believe that it is solved with pip and virtualenv; the conda faction has to be bigger than 10%. Plus there's the people that think pip/venv aren't enough, but that tools on top of them plug the gaps (poetry).

But I think that the share of professional developers who see it as a solved problem at all is less than 90%. Obviously, we've all got some way of working with/around the issues, that doesn't mean that we don't feel that they exist.

[user5994461]

If I can give my anecdote, the last 3 companies I worked at that were heavily using Python and the hundreds of developers in them were all relying on pip and virtualenv. And it worked just fine no matter what the HN crowd would have you believe.

conda had minor usage in the last one for building a handful of special projects mixing C++ and Python code (highly specific code in the finance industry), after build the artifacts could go into the python repository (internal pypi) and be usable with pip. Everything was down to pip at the end of the day. As a matter of fact, the guys who used and pushed for conda were also the ones pushing the hardest for pip because pip is the answer to everything.

[ghshephard]

Well - you can add one more to your anecdote - my current job is 13 active developers, 200+ megabytes of 1500+ .py files developed over 9 years by 30+ developers. It's all virtualenv/wrappers + pip.

Our data scientists like Conda - but our developers don't touch it.

[jevgeni]

Well, if the consumers are all devs, then sure.

[jevgeni]

My pet conspiracy theory is that Docker was created in part because Python code is un-shipable otherwise.