[porker]

> It pretty much did, but then Rails and Ruby's hype cycle faded a bit

It was Rails' hype cycle that turned me off using Ruby & Rails in the first place. It had more in common with the cult I grew up with than I wanted to be part of, and made it hard for a sceptical outsider to get in.

Which is a shame as I think I'd have enjoyed it very much.

[nl]

I agree.

I couldn't stand DHH's "I'm right" attitude about everything. I listened about programming and then he started talking about things I know lots about and I realised he wasn't exactly wrong, just hadn't seen other ways of doing things.

[ksec]

That is still a problem today in Rails. So it is a double edge sword for Ruby and Rails.