[NewOrderNow]

So weak discipline? I don't get it as a person who just eats meat and veggies why you would want something you don't want?

It's like creating a protein based pea that tastes exactly like a pea in every way but made with animal protein and I call it carnivore peas. What you are saying is that you are trying to reverse engineer something for hedonism's sake.

[maxerickson]

They aren't trying to reverse engineer anything, they are trying to make food they like that is not also attached to activities they find unethical.

There's no contradiction or dissonance, it's "I find raising and slaughtering animals for food unethical" on the one side and "I like certain flavors" on the other.