[perfect_wave]

I agree here. I really don't understand some of the bashing that happens every single time the Macbook Pros come up in HN comments.

I was a longtime happy owner of a 2015 15" MBP until earlier this year when I decided it was time to upgrade to a refurbished 2019 16" MBP. I was a bit nervous at first but I have to say that I have no major complaints, other than the fact that I wish I had F keys instead of the touchbar. Contrary to everyone else, I really like the keyboard.

As for solving the touchpad issue, I use Pock [1] which I read about on HN. It removes the need for using a slider every time I want to adjust the volume or brightness and lets me control Spotify and see what song is currently playing.

I also have a 2018 15" MBP for work. If you believed the comments here you'd think that I am unable to type or use the damn thing. Honestly, after 1 week of use I'm already used to the keyboard. Not having an escape key kind of sucked, but I have rebound caps lock to escape on all of my Macbooks and enjoy that even more than having an escape key.

My other complaint is that the trackpad is a bit too large - I find myself accidentally hitting it sometimes and it just seems excessive. Finally, it's a shame that you can't mess with the battery/RAM/SSD yourself but unfortunately that's more of a trend for the industry than just Apple.

Overall I'm a totally happy user on both the 2018 and 2019 Macbook Pros. I was quite nervous about the possibility of having to use a Windows PC for work when I started my new job. And don't even get me started on having to use a Pixelbook at Google.

[1] https://pock.dev/

[ggregoire]

> Contrary to everyone else, I really like the keyboard.

Lot of people like it, they just don't post about it.

Mine has a bunch of keys that print 2 or 3 times when I press the key once (the issue that everybody eventually get with the model I have) but I still prefer that flat keyboard to the old one. Takes a few days to get used to but then it's great.

I'm using https://github.com/aahung/Unshaky which fix the issue with the broken keys.

[cole-k]

I wonder how many people are informing their opinions solely from the gross incompetence exhibited by Apple with your mentioned double tapping keys issue. I seem to recall that they have fixed it in newer models, but I wouldn't be surprised if it still persists.

I hate to admit it since I've drunk the mechanical keyboard koolaid, but I like the mbp flat keyboard. I easily prefer it to the 2015 keyboard, which imo is really nothing special (at least it doesn't gunk up). I hear people say great things about the thinkpad keyboard, but from my little experience with it, I'd still rank the mbp flat keyboard higher.

[chrischen]

Yea, Apple has been posting record Macbook sales.

[RandallBrown]

The 2019 16inch keyboard has a different style keyboard I believe.

[wingerlang]

About the slider. You can tap-and-hold to quick access the slider.

But you can also do a quick swipe left/right on the button to a quick increase/decrease just like a tap.

I actually love the slider though. I hated it at first.

[kfarr]

Thanks for the tip about pock.dev. I've been rocking GC-BTT. A bit cumbersome to setup but love the functionality: https://community.folivora.ai/t/goldenchaos-btt-the-complete...

[knoke]

With BTT and GoldenChaos you can swipe anywhere on the Touchbar with two fingers to change the volume, and with three fingers to change the brightness of the display.

[vmception]

The 2019 mbp got rid of the butterfly keyboard. You have a normal keyboard thats why you like it.

Unless there is a separate late 2019 one.

[ralfd]

> [1] https://pock.dev/

Looks useful! Thanks.

[fomine3]

It's fine for who love, but the problem is there's no alternative choice with macOS.