| Homicide rate in NK (4.4 / 100k) https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/intentional-homicides-per... Homicide rates from firearms NK (0.11 / 100k) https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/homicide-rates-from-firea... Homicide rate in USA (6.1 / 100k) https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/homicide-rate?tab=chart&s... Homicide rates from firearms USA (4.63 / 100k) https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/homicide-rates-from-firea... So USA is more dangerous than NK in general and the chances of getting shot and killed (quoting "Can you criticise the government without you and your family being shot?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25032711) are 42 times worse in USA than in NK. It means that for every person shot and killed in NK there are 42 in USA. I was wrong anyway, it's not 6 chances in 1 million but ~1 chance in a million to get shot and killed in NK. Compare it now to some other western country, for example Italy, my country: homicide rate: 0.7 / 100k homicide rate by firearms: 0.3 / 100k Italy is quite average for the west, all the other western countries have similar stats, more or less. What's wrong with the US? |
Yeah, no. The figure here would be for those executed by the state for political crimes, though that will be hard to measure in both cases and I’d prefer to include in that count things like “unlawfully killed by cops who didn’t like you because you uncovered evidence of systematic racism” because I feel de-facto truths are more important than de-jure claims.
Then you get messy things like prison labour, and systematic policies of punishing entire communities for crimes (or protests) of a few from that community, and I don’t even know if you’re able to demonstrate any of these without being piled on by people defending any given example as unrelated/justified/propaganda/all of the above.
In fairness to you, this is a lot messier than my original comment. :)