[kaba0]

Why? Like, seriously. Telemetry is useful, and I am more than happy to provide them with some useful metrics so they know what to improve on - since I can’t really help with the code itself, since it is an insanely huge project.

It’s not like they use it to build a profile of you, as goddamn chrome does.

I feel that whatever Mozilla does can never be good enough for some people, even though they are one of the most important players in the “fight” of OSS. Just think about it, linux is only usable as a desktop OS because most of the desktop apps migrated to the web - and firefox is the only free browser that is actually capable, as well as the only engine that is not google-controlled. We should support them as much as we can.

[lorenzhs]

It annoys me that Mozilla and Firefox are held to an almost impossible standard by this community, whereas others get a pass on behaviour that's far more intrusive. These posts seem to be lacking entirely in perspective. That doesn't mean that Mozilla can't be criticised, but ffs, don't blow minor issues out of proportion.

[account42]

Impossible standard??? Not collecting information users have not explicitly consented to is the fucking baseline.

[sneak]

Software that sends surveillance data of user activity without first obtaining the user’s consent is malware, silently acting against the wishes of the user, co-opting their hardware and network to work against them to benefit a remote party.

It’s great that you consent. In that instance it is fine. Many do not, and to proceed with the assumption of consent should be a crime.

What is done with the data is irrelevant. Spying without explicit consent is the problem.

[b112]

It’s not like they use it to build a profile of you, as goddamn chrome does.

Eh? Says who? Them?

So many times, companies have lied, cheated, made excuses. So many times "we don't", then they do.

So. Many. Times.

So I should just trust Mozilla, because... well, why?

And this doesn't even take into account new corporate owners, leveraging existing data in a new way. Or rogue elements in corps, employees stealing data for profit, or even data leakage due to misconfigured servers.

These thongs have all happened.

Corps have left dumps of entire client databases, credit cards, id, on open portals!

Over and over, again and again, we have been shown, never ever trust anyone with your data. Ever.

[dblohm7]

The client is open source (and you can go to about:telemetry to see for yourself what it’s sending), the server side is open source, and much of that data is publicly accessible at https://telemetry.mozilla.org

[samoa42]

imho telemetry is more often than not used to neglect common sense