[gwd]

> How hard is it to intercept mail-in ballots, sign them, then mail them in? Who knows that you did so?

Well first of all, the person who was supposed to get the mail-in ballot in the first place. In Michigan, you can check to see whether they've received your mail-in ballot.

Don't you think that if 100k Republicans in Michigan didn't receive their ballot at all, but checked and found that they had been registered as having voted, we'd be hearing about that?

> I personally find it very implausible that in both elections that Trump was in he produced results about 3% better than polls indicated he would.

I find this highly suspicious too. In 2016 it might have been the "Shy Tory" effect, but the Trump voters in 2020 didn't seem at all shy to me.

[disgruntledphd2]

If 50% of the country hates the president (rightly or wrongly) and much of the media argues that he's a bad person, and everyone who supports him are racists, then I could easily see people lying to pollsters.

Like, the shy tory effect comes from a much less polarised election in the UK (the 1992 GE).

That being said, I actually think that it was the likely voter models that messed up this year, given that turnout was so much higher than expected.

[Izkata]

> Don't you think that if 100k Republicans in Michigan didn't receive their ballot at all, but checked and found that they had been registered as having voted, we'd be hearing about that?

The most common claim I've been seeing is that dead people are voting Democrat, not that living people's votes were stolen.

[jcadam]

1. Halt counting (or at least 'reporting') in critical swing states simultaneously. We all saw this happen.

2. Kick out poll watchers

3. Figure out how many votes your preferred candidate needs.

4. Examine the voter rolls and see who never turned in a ballot.

5. Fill in ballots for those people (and if you're in a rush, don't even bother to vote in any down-ballot races) and mix them in with the legitimate ballots.

If you control a few key urban centers in a few key states - you can definitely pull this off. Given the behavior of the left over the last 4 years, I absolutely believe they did something like the above.

[gwd]

> Given what my extremely biased sources have told me about the behavior of the left over the last 4 years

FTFY

> Kick out poll watchers

Were any poll watchers kicked out? Trump's claim that there weren't poll watchers in Pennsylvania all turned out to be false; their lawyer admitted in court that they actually had 19 observers in the room [1].

EDIT Meanwhile, the graphs in TFA shows that there are "bumps" in the curve, showing that Democratic-leaning counties had lower turnout in the 2016 election. This is consistent with the widespread reports of Republicans trying to suppress the vote in Democratic-leaning areas, of which [2] and [3] are more recent examples.

[1] https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/trump-sues-to-halt...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/01/north-caroli...

[3] https://www.texastribune.org/2020/11/01/texas-drive-thru-vot...