[berryworm]

Are the Quests really bricked if the Facebook account is shut down? Can you not do a factory reset and start over with a new account?

[strombofulous]

Facebook is honestly pretty good at detecting second accounts and won't let you make a new one if you already have a banned one

You'll also lose a lot of online progress and any purchases

[berryworm]

OK then sell it to somebody else. "Bricked" in my opinion means the device can never be made to function again. If you can reset it, it is not bricked.

[_iyig]

You can resell the device (at a loss), but you will never recover the money spent on games and apps in the Oculus Store. In my case, hundreds of dollars spent in the years since the launch of the Rift CV1.

[mcv]

Demand that money back too. You paid for it, they deny you access to it. They should be obligated to pay your money back. Sue them in small claims court, raise a stink, and never do business with them again.

[strombofulous]

I see this a suggestion a lot and I can only assume the person making it hasn't been screwed by a company (sorry if you have, not trying to attack you). Unfortunately, the reality is that raising a stink won't do anything more than annoy the 1800 operators (if they don't have a button on their screen to give you what they want, it is impossible for them to do it for you, no matter how persuasive you are).

Suing in small claims court is a) a massive ordeal (even without the lawyers) and b) a permanent, public record that you can legally be discriminated against for

In my experience your only real recourse is a chargeback (which, to be fair, will almost always work), but that only is an option for a few months after your purchase.

[tomatocracy]

I agree that chargebacks should be the first port of call here. My experience with that route has been great.

But small claims isn't as difficult as you make out, at least in the UK. In some areas there are specialist law firms who do all the work for you and will to take the case no win/no fee (but often they will take a share of any award as well as full court-awarded costs in return). Their entire business model is to make the process as pain-free as possible for you.

This works because some companies have a policy of ignoring and/or fobbing you off continually but will immediately settle when you issue proceedings against them because the cost to them of any outcome which involves going to court (win or lose) is higher than the cost of settling (eg Ryanair is pretty notorious for this).

[justinclift]

> suing [in] a small claims court is a) a massive ordeal and b) a permanent, public record that you can legally be discriminated against for

Are you sure you're talking about the same thing?

[mcv]

Don't sell it to someone else. Demand your money back from the merchant you bought it from. It's clearly defective.

[taneq]

I imagine it would suck rather a lot to lose your game library every time Facebook's auto-ban trips on your otherwise unused account.

[berryworm]

I'm not saying it is fun, but if you can reset the device it is not "bricked".

[LarvaFX]

If you cannot use it anymore because you don't have access to your FB account and your games, what is it good for.

It is the same as bricked.

[jannes]

Maybe we need a new terminology for “like a brick for me, possibly functional for others“