[lol636363]

Policy wise he probably didn't make any bad decisions. But his words have made it okay to be racist. As a minority, I experienced more minor forms of racism in last 4 years than in last 20 years before. He made it cool to be racist. He made my life slightly more inconvenient. And I am sure if I didn't had high paying job I would have suffered more balant racism. Trump is evil human and I am glad he will gone soon enough.

[brigandish]

> I experienced more minor forms of racism in last 4 years than in last 20 years before

That's awful. What kind of things happened (if you don't mind) and do you think it was an attitudinal change or were there policy decisions that were the cause?

> He made it cool to be racist.

I infer from this it was young people that you think (or know) have been affected.

Edit: typo

[lol636363]

Mostly attitude changes. Like if our group of mostly brown people with kids is at a festival, security gaurds or cops would all of sudden hangout next to us. We would just laugh it off and cops are not rude or anything. But I rarely noticed cops hanging out near us when we are in mostly white group.

Another thing, a little worse service especially at upscale suburban resturants. Now brown/desi people are known to be cheap when it comes to tips, so that does have some effect on the service. However, before 2016, we rarely got bad/slow service. But it seems we had more issues at resturants in last 4 years than before. (Btw I always tip decent 20% standard and more depending on the service)

From cool I meant people now openly sterotype minorities especially on Facebook. Both young and old. Like friends complaining that they didn't get a job because company was trying to hire a black woman. And, in fact, I have heard from multiple of my Republican friends that a Black Woman is the most powerful person in the US. (Ofc, I don't believe that)

[lol636363]

Here is a more balant racism experience I had. On a date night, we sat next to another couple. The guy was really not happy, he started talking just loud enough for us to hear that Trump will round up all Muslims and immigrants and ship them out. Then he started singing that his cousin is Navy Seal and he likes to kill Iraqis, Afghanis, and all the dities. His date kept telling him to shut up. He asked waitress to change tables, I think.

We tried our best to ignore and have a good evening. This is the only incident in last 4 years but never experienced anything like this before especially in upscale restaurants.

[brigandish]

That must leave a nasty taste in the mouth. I know from my own experience that it's harder to laugh off these kind of things if you feel they're more pervasive in society than just one idiot. Of course, it's hard to draw good conclusions from anecdotes but they're still evidence of prejudice that too many are too quick to dismiss.

> I rarely noticed cops hanging out near us when we are in mostly white group.

I heard something similar from a mixed race footballer in the UK (where I'm from). Again, it's difficult to draw conclusions but these things add up. Part of the problem is how to measure or validate things like this in such a way that they become persuasive to change.

For what it's worth I hope it doesn't happen again, or the good far outweighs the bad (which may be all we can hope for in life!)

[lawnchair_larry]

> But his words have made it okay to be racist. As a minority, I experienced more minor forms of racism in last 4 years than in last 20 years before. He made it cool to be racist.

No, he didn’t. He denounced white supremacy more than any politician ever has, but folks were obsessed with these “Trump is a Nazi” lies. There’s a reason that more minorities voted for him than any GOP candidate ever. In fact, the only demographic that he lost ground on was white men.

What minor forms of racism are you saying he caused in your life?

[nphard85]

Tell me this: When Trump riled up his supporters to chant "send them back" when referring to the American congresswomen known as "the squad", was it racist or not?

"Go back to where you came from" is a common racial insult non-white immigrants endure even decades or generations after they naturalize.

[jonsno56]

> He denounced white supremacy more than any politician ever has,

Source? I’m very curious to learn more about this

[lawnchair_larry]

I find this incredibly disturbing. I don’t mean that negatively or personally in any way. But I routinely meet people who are completely unaware of this and who actually think he called Nazis very fine people. Because the media and the campaign ads and people on social media keep repeating this lie and never show the dozens of times that he has already addressed this, including in the second half of the sentence that quote comes from, but was edited out. The fact that such a significant hoax that is trivially debunked continues to live on for years is a bad sign. Obviously, this is why he attacks the media so much. And who can blame him?

Sibling comment has a compilation of him doing it 38 times. I recommend this video as well:

https://youtu.be/6R6hxPYWD50

[abc-xyz]

Here’s a video compilation of Trump denouncing racism and white supremacy on 38 different occasions (https://youtube.com/watch?v=Bd0cMmBvqWc).

[nphard85]

But Trump [1] also says the non-white congresswomen known as "the squad" should go back to where they came from. Even riled up his supporters [2] to chant "send her back".

You know "go back to where you came from" is a common racial insult hurled at non-white immigrants decades or generations after they naturalize in the USA?

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMZnemqsCdI [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqLxxbjVG_k

[abc-xyz]

Is Biden any better? Quoting 'adventured' from elsewhere in this thread:

> As opposed to Biden's belligerent life-long racism, which the left universally goes a great distance out of its way to ignore?

> Even Kamala Harris called him a racist. She did her best to run away from that after it was no longer convenient of course.

> See: Biden's statements on "a racial jungle," segregation, busing, and how he didn't want his children going to desegregated schools.

> See: Biden's support of the crime bill that specifically targeted and locked up a million black people.

> See: Biden's past friendships and associations with 'former' KKK memembers like Robert Byrd (someone he considered a good friend and mentor). Byrd was one of the most vile pieces of scum elected to the US Government in the past century. How's that for associating with white supremacists?

> See: Biden's racist statements about Obama prior to the 2008 election.

[tyg13]

"what about Biden?" in no way excuses Trump's statements.

[rubygiuliani]

Do you have a source for that source? What about his emails in his laptop?