[Itsdijital]

Sam Harris did a really fascinating podcast with David Frum, a long time conservative writer and assistant George Bush.

Frum basically says that after the Obama election, republican strategists sat down to decide on whether to shift the platform to changing demographics in America or to double down and declare all out war. They chose the latter.

[cptnapalm]

Congressional and Senate Republicans did quite well under Obama. Trump's increase in the Black and Hispanic vote will be food for thought.

[mmm_grayons]

I think a potential factor is the democrats' anti-gun rhetoric. It's explicitly designed to cater to white suburban moms, i.e. those who think guns are bad and scary and threaten their children. This in spite of the fact that twice as many children die from accidents involving glass tabletops than firearms accidents [0]. Add to that the recent surge in new minority gun owners due to safety concerns [1], the long, racist history of gun control [2] from army/navy laws to those targeting "saturday-night specials", and the recent push to lock certain weapons behind a $200 tax and an arduous process [3] and I think it makes for a big factor in Trump's increased black and hispanic support. This is in spite of the fact that Trump is absolutely terrible as far as gun rights go, but the democrats for some reason insist on being worse. Running on a platform of repealing the NFA, the GCA, and the FOPA, or even getting rid of the Hughes amendment, would probably yield massive dividends.

[0]: https://www.ammoland.com/2020/11/twice-as-many-children-die-...

[1]: https://www.blackenterprise.com/black-americans-now-account-...

[2]: https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/civil-rights/347324-t...

[3]: https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

[Red_Leaves_Flyy]

Good points.

Do you think there's room for a middle ground on this issue? Can America handle a national discussion on gun rights, health care access, bullying, and mental health simultaneously? Gun laws cut through all of those issues deeply.

[Red_Leaves_Flyy]

I've seen and heard quite a few democrats addressing the need to do better Spanish outreach due to the spread of pro trump propaganda on social media. That mistake has been identified and is being addressed. I have not heard that the black community went big for Trump. Can you cite some sources?

[cptnapalm]

I wrote that he made gains, because he did. He did better than Romney did in 2012 and did better than he did in 2016.

[Red_Leaves_Flyy]

Sorry, you're right.

[krapp]

I was under the impression that, in general terms, the Black vote went for Biden and the Hispanic vote went for Trump.

[cptnapalm]

The majority of both went to Biden, but Trump made gains over what he got in 2016 which was better than Romney in 2012. So there appears to be a path to improve minority showing for Republicans, depending on the Republican.