[trhway]

that is pointless. It isn't about message, it is all about messenger. If they don't want to listen to you, they wouldn't. My friend who has made his way pretty high here in the SV told me recently how the same CXX/"boardroom" people who wouldn't listen even to his 1 sentence, now have all the time and attention in the world to listen to him all day long.

[croh]

This is true. You can always try to convince people but if you're not string puller, you're in mercy of listeners. If they fix on something (e.g.profit, own promotion), your story should be aligned to that(their KPI). Then only you can have hope.

When shit breaks, no one wants to take blame and people start to forget 'selectively' your earlier warnings of shit.