[edgyquant]

No Elon is goofy but Ma proved last year in his sit down with Musk that he doesn’t even have Jr. engineer levels of knowledge. He only has wealth and a name because he has connection while Musk had to be competent to gain his wealth. I do not like Musk but the two aren’t compatible Ma is an actual fraud.

[Aunche]

I think the Elon hate is overblown, but everything he has to say about Covid is outright dangerous, let alone stupid.

Ma isn't an engineer and doesn't pretend to be, which is why you can't take anything he says about AI seriously. I'm sure he's corrupt in the same way a lot of Chinese businessmen are corrupt. That said, you don't go from being a tour guide to building a e-commerce platform with arguably the most sophisticated supply chain the world solely by being a fraud.

[edgyquant]

He’s a fraud when taken as some sort of tech genius. I am in no way disregarding he is a skilled logistical and political tactician. It was just really hard to watch him act as such when in conversation with a man who is a skilled engineer.

Also I agree the hate is overblown but I also don’t think Elon is the worlds savior so I tend to push back against that rhetoric.