| > And that all started from individuals doing anything as opposed to nothing
> It wasn’t the case 20 or 30 years ago An example? In just 20 years China has gone from 5kg of meat/year on average to 60kg/year (and growing) on average. And they are more than a billion people. Simply when you are not poor, you don't want to live like poor people anymore, with all its drawbacks. In particular people that go from poor to less poor try to avoid dietary deficiencies, that caused so much pain in their past, especially for their children. > say 5 animals a year by changing your habits vs saving 0 a year is a worthwhile improvement Worthwhile for whom? You can save 5 of them by sheer luck. I know one can find meaning in almost anything, but structural change must have a structure. > You seem to assume that it’s a choice between doing something with a lower impact and something with a higher impact. Because it is. Something with negligible impact has no impact, by definition. > . There is a reason why the UN I’m has been saying for years that we must drastically lower our meat consumption if we want to keep feeding everyone Yeah - we - means mainly US, where people eat on average around 120kg/year of meat. It doesn't mean meat is bad, when Africa is gonna raise there gonna be almost 1 billion people that will exit food shortages and countries like Kenya or Uganda will finally pass from eating 4-5kg of meat a year, to something better for their nutritional needs, something like 30-40kg/year. Another billion will reach a lifestyle more similar to ours. Thew west is gonna need to share its surplus, it's not the World that needs to stop eating something because others ate too much of in the past. That's injustice. > I don’t think that’s true. But unfortunately it is. There are more than 160 million dogs and cats in USA alone, think about the entire West. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal... > (they can live healthily on a vegetables diet) It is possible, but no advisable, for many reasons: - it's incredibly expensive - takes a lot of care - takes a lot of time - chances of failure are astronomically high - dogs are omnivore, like pandas are omnivore bears, pandas spend the entire time they are awake eating, because the nutrients of vegetables are much less energetic than eating meat directly. dogs deprived of meat would follow the same destiny. |