[Chris2048]

  “The experts don’t know what they’re talking about and are blinded by tribalism” is rhetoric of the 20th century.

How would you describe the medical abuses of the last century? e.g. lobotomies to cure mental conditions, refusal of surgeons to wash hands etc.

Have scientists moved on from tribalism?

[willis936]

I said physics has moved on.

Also, if experimental surgeries were never attempted in the 20th century the quality and length of our lives, and potentially trillions of future human lives, would be nasty, brutish, and short. Not all attempts had a sound basis and I don’t defend them. I do say the good of the total if 20th century experimental surgeries far outweighs the bad. Importantly, we are able to learn from our mistakes quickly. It took centuries to stop using the breaking wheel. It took less than a lifetime to stop lobotomies.

I’m struggling to understand your point though. Do doctors still practice lobotomies and refuse to wash hands, or have they cast aside their tribalism and make decisions based on science?